Coffee 8:12 Thu Jan 21
Litvinenko report out today
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The first and only known incident of nuclear murder on British soil. This has been such a toxic (yes) affair and it will be very interesting to see the direction the public enquiry's report takes. It's been nearly 10 years since his death, two and a half years after ministers decided not to go for a public enquiry and a year after the court-ordered enquiry began.
This whole thing is full of smoke and mirrors. Will the enquiry conclude that direct responsibility lies at the highest levels of the Russian government? Circumstantial evidence seems to suggest that it does, but is there enough proof?
My guess is that the report will say that there is a strong case to lay responsibility at Putin's door, but not enough evidence to proceed further than that. Expect a few weeks of political bluster before things calm down in the wake of another 69 year-old celebrity's death.
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Boycie
9:22 Sat Jan 23
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He was a spy wasn't he? Did he kill people?
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bruuuno
12:23 Sat Jan 23
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Does anyone stateside know if this has been in the US media at all?
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Ronald_antly
11:10 Fri Jan 22
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"My guess is that the report will say that there is a strong case to lay responsibility at Putin's door, but not enough evidence to proceed further than that."
Evidence?
EVIDENCE??
What the fuck do you need evidence for??
And what would proceeding further entail?
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Coffee
12:43 Fri Jan 22
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gank 12:30 Fri Jan 22
It's a classic East vs West (Ham) story.
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Nurse Ratched
12:35 Fri Jan 22
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Comma. I was fascinated with that Markov story when I was a kid.
Mr Benn goes bad.
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goose
12:31 Fri Jan 22
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someone's had a drink this morning.
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gank
12:30 Fri Jan 22
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Look I'm not saying it isn't an interesting discussion, but why when you decided to instigate it, did you decide that a West Ham fan site would be an appropriate forum?
This has nothing whatsoever to do with West Ham.
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Nurse Ratched
12:19 Fri Jan 22
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If you put your thinking cap on, Darby, I think you will realise nobody is apologising for Putin.
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Coffee
11:41 Fri Jan 22
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Russ of the BML 11:32 Fri Jan 22
What would you have done differently?
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Russ of the BML
11:34 Fri Jan 22
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mashed in maryland 10:46 Fri Jan 22
You probably wouldn't even know where to start!!!
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Russ of the BML
11:32 Fri Jan 22
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Coffee 9:40 Fri Jan 22
Really?? I think politically it's about as weak as it could be.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:24 Fri Jan 22
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Yes, that rattling sound from over there on the far right would be the label coming off the whole populist divide-and-rule project for Europe.
Next up will be the CIA report on Kremlin political funding etc.
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Darby_
11:22 Fri Jan 22
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This is the sort of country that the Putin apologists want to live in, is it?
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/news/article/russian-celebs-back-chechen-leader-who-called-opposition-traitors/556448.html
They are the latest stage of a confrontation between "Kadyrov and opposition media and activists that began when the Kadyrov last week published a statement saying opponents of Putin should be treated as “traitors.”
As the row escalated, Kadyrov branded opposition figures “jackals” who intend to “destroy our state” and — in a flashback to Soviet-era punishments — suggested they be given psychological treatment in Chechen hospitals."
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,
11:21 Fri Jan 22
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Posters might find it interesting to google Georgi Markov. Though some might end up with umbrella phobia after reading up on him.
A Bulgarian dissident who was poisoned by ricin.
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Nurse Ratched
11:04 Fri Jan 22
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You have an extremely simplistic, but at the same time, really warped worldview, Dap.
I doubt you could beat a nematode worm at draughts.
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Nurse Ratched
11:04 Fri Jan 22
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You have an extremely simplistic, but at the same time, really warped worldview, Dap.
I doubt you could beat a nematode worm at draughts.
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Willtell
11:02 Fri Jan 22
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It occurs to me that Putin is despised for being a man that doesn't give a shit. He's a bit like Trump in that respect.
The last time we had a leader like that was probably Winston Churchill.
Easy to hate or poke fun at but needed at crucial times. It will be interesting to see how Trump gets on but the reason these personality leaders are so admired is because they stand out from all the other grey politicians with pressure groups to answer to all the time...
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Dapablo
10:58 Fri Jan 22
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It's even weirder some people want to care about him, poor little Putin don't be mean to him, jomg.
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Nurse Ratched
10:54 Fri Jan 22
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Paedophile? Oh good. I would hate to think Putin's enemies were getting desperate and childish.
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sidneyshitcunt
10:53 Fri Jan 22
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People with interest to do this: MI-6
People who look bad as result: Russia/FSB
Location: United Kingdom
Stooge Rating: 2 ex KGB bodyguards who WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE FOLLOWING IN MI-5. 5 stooge stars out of 5.
MI-6 Media (BBC, Reuters, etc) conclusion: It was the Russians
WHO conclusion: It was the Russians
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riosleftsock
10:50 Fri Jan 22
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Agreed Mashed.
I read in the paper this morning a bit more detail on Litvinenko's claim that Putin was a paedophile.
There's either some truth in it, which would kind of explain Putin's reaction. Or it was one of these rumours that run around a workplace and people end up believing them.
If it was just office gossip, I don't think Putin would have reacted the way he did.
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